The Soul Talk Episode 147: Money and Spirituality, learn how to merge them

Monica Ramirez 0:08

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Hello, everyone, this is Monica Ramirez the worry of love. And thank you for being in Soul Talk, in Soul Talk and Soulogy. And today, we have a very special friend that I have the honor to be here roommate in Sedona. And we got to talk a little bit about money. I know it is spooky word for so many. But it is. It is so so important. We live in still in a 3d world. So it is important to talk about how we can create magic with money. And, Jennifer, she is an expert in this. And let me tell you a little bit about who she is. Jenny, thank you for any for for, for accepting my invitation for small talk.

Jenniffer Pietrzak 1:18

Absolutely. Thank you for having me.

Monica Ramirez 1:22

Well, Jennifer Pisac, she's an intuitive accountant. Jennifer is remarkable financial expert with a unique approach to accounting and combines traditional finance expert expertise in the power of energetics. She specialized in helping women entrepreneurs, not only to manage the finances effective effectively, but also transforming the relationship with money. Jennifer, what it took you here where you are because as you can you're already you're already a bookkeeper. But the energetic part, that is not very common inaudible keepers. Right? So how, what he brought to here?

Jenniffer Pietrzak 2:07

Yeah, well, it's a long story. But the short version is I've been doing traditional accounting work, bookkeeping, tax returns, and advice all of those things for many years. And it was only when I started to integrate some of my personal experience with intuitive wellness, with energy work with Akashic records, that I started realizing, Oh, I understand something about my clients that I didn't understand before. And that is that a lot of us are empaths. Right. And when we are triggered in emotional reaction, which money can do, which taxes can do, which finances of any kind really can do. When we're triggered, sometimes we get stuck in that emotional energy. Right. And until you have a financial expert that can actually walk that walk and talk that talk with you, and have that conversation about what's coming up for you, when you talk about your money. We can't really get to the point of where most accountants come in, and give strategy and tools, right, we all want to get to the dream, we all want to get to our financial goals, right, but there's an emotional reaction that's coming up because we have a money story. And it wasn't until I realized this for myself, that I was able to help my clients with it as well. So my path was really seeing my client's emotional reaction and actually taking it on as an empath. Taking on what I was seeing going on in them, whether they were angry about paying taxes, or, you know, wanted to avoid the situation completely, or got stuck in kind of like a hyper hyper vigilance or control over, you know, I don't want to get audited, I'm really afraid about what what could happen if I don't do my taxes, right? So these types of scenarios, they would come to me in this emotional energetic kind of turmoil. And I started taking it on myself and I started getting angry and I started getting emotional and, and kind of reactive. And I'm like, What's going on here? And it wasn't until I immersed myself in Akashic records and energy work myself for my own well being that I realized, Oh, I see what's going on here now. And not only can I see it for myself, and start separating some of that emotion and kind of organizing my thoughts about how do I help bring bring people out of that react? action into a response that's actually going to move them towards their dreams towards their goals, instead of being stuck, and not being able to implement the tools that I'm providing them with.

Monica Ramirez 5:14

That is so so true. I, in fact, I gotta I remember one time, we were in Sedona, that you were talking to one of the other beautiful ladies about the finances and things like that, and hit me like, Oh, my God, I am afraid of money. And in that moment is like, Okay, where is and they start digging in, like, worried is this is coming from, like, because he asked me, they're like, of course, you're not gonna attract money, your fear of them. Money, it is very logical way this way doesn't matter, we work 16 hours a day, or 14 hours a day, or people that have eight hours a day, it is going to be very hard, because we are afraid of money. And that's the majority of the human beings.

Jenniffer Pietrzak 6:04

It is it is and we have a lot of resources at our disposal at this point. You know, there's money mantras, there's affirmations that we say to ourselves, there's prosperity coaches, and all different types of things and avenues that we can go to, to kind of work through that. What's interesting is that, now that I realized that I can bring it together with the actual functional things that we need to do for compliance. So as we're being triggered, by doing the bookkeeping, or sending in the reports, and the returns, or whatever it is, as those triggers are coming up, I work with my clients to actually understand what's coming up. Why is it coming up? What's the story behind it, so that we can deal with it in the moment, and we're not taking it back home with us and ruminating for, you know, overnight, losing sleep, or, or for months at a time or not wanting to go back to their accountant to deal with it. But I think that something that's really interesting about the fear of money, is we often have contradictions, you know, so we can be saying the money mantra, and really believing that we want a certain thing. But if there's some underlying limiting belief, or underlying bias to scarcity, that's ultimately going to rule out. So until it's kind of like going to counter manifest, if you will, maybe not rule out.

Monica Ramirez 7:37

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Jenniffer Pietrzak 8:24

Yes, it can. It's conditioning right. On top of that. There's actually statistics out there. Math, doing math, math, anxiety, is a real thing. And it affects women, excuse me, way more than it affects men. There's actually statistics and studies on this. So we are I hate calling out a disadvantage, but we are kind of up against a lot as women, especially infiltrating into this this entrepreneurial world that has been structured in a very masculine way for so many years. So it's the conditioning, it's you know, all of the things

Monica Ramirez 9:08

that is so true. So, do you are an attached kasi creator? Or also company like this psychic in a way you can feel the emotions of other people so forth. But in what ways do you work in in the spiritual world and finances at the same time? Yeah,

Jenniffer Pietrzak 9:33

so with Akashic records, we can actually not just read the person's soul records, but also the soul of the business or the imprint of the business. And so when I work one on one with clientele, I often will ask if they're open to us looking into the Akashic records for them in their business and seeing like, how are they talking to each other? What does the business want to see? I'm about the financial performance in the progress that we're making within the business. And it happens to be really effective. Because what it does for those who are not familiar with Akashic records, Akashic records is like a deeper dive into the infinite intelligence that's available to us, right? We often walk around in our day, and we're getting intuitive messages all of the time. But when we go into the records, with intention, with prayer, with a specific question in mind, we can actually go deeper and get very specific information about what we need to know right now, what's up with the business right now. And that helps me in the sense of not just communicating what I'm sensing and experiencing from the person and what they're, they're bringing to the table. But also, I can hone in on the specific strategy that's aligned for them right then in the moment. And what that does is there's no putting it on the back burner. Because it's an align tactic and aligned strategy that we can implement today. It helps with the implementation being more effective, the willingness to pursue the activity, there's a little bit more oomph. A more purpose behind that, because we're aligning what the soul wants, what the business wants, with, how we're moving through our day, how we're approaching our financial decisions, and so forth.

Monica Ramirez: 11:46

To just clarified to our audience, sometimes it may not come from this timeline, it may come also from as different timeline, yes, as life that you will commit fraud or something like that. Maybe in this timeline, you're not, but you did in the past life. And you're carrying the guilt from that time. So you're gonna be projecting in this timeline in this life?

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 12:14

Absolutely. Absolutely. That is often the case that there's a pattern there. And we're here to learn those lessons now. And I think it's so great that we have all of these tools, and people with all different types of gifts. Because, you know, when you go into the Akashic Records versus when I go into the Akashic records, we're interpreting a little bit differently. We have our own gifts that influence what comes through, and what we share, and timing and all of the all of the components that happened. So it's really it's such a gift that we can add this on to the masculine energy and the divine right actions that we're taking to move our business forward.

Monica Ramirez: 13:08

That is so true. Because yes, it can be a million Akashic Records readers, but each one of us will do it in a very different way, in our own unique way with our own unique gifts. I cannot do it, it will keep in part. So my forte, I am an artist, and I'm buried, so organized. So that doesn't go with me and Melis. Lexa do not help me to even to see the numbers straight. I'm proud that that's one of the blockage, physical neck, and we can see a physical like Why cannot do bookkeeping, because the numbers jump, and come nine and so forth. And but precisely that will can be one of the blockage. That's that I can have many, many of the viewers to their scene, this is what Yes,

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 14:00

I'm so glad you brought that up. Because dis calcula is it is a thing. And it does keep people from wanting to do any kind of math having any kind of conversation about numbers. But just to build on what you were already saying, you know, if we equate it to developing our inner clear gifts, right, clairvoyance, as an example, the way that I like to think about it, or at least this is how my experience has been is as I got more and more open more and more trusting of the gift itself. The dial, you know, I was able to dial in with more and more clarity, and I feel like that is also something that can happen with dis calcula Yes, it's a real thing that people struggle with. But when we start pulling it up apart piece by piece, well, what's really going on here is their fear underneath that, we can at least start to make a difference and shift and dial in. So that we can see at least at a high level what we need to see. And we're not obscured. Does that make sense?

Monica Ramirez: 15:19

It makes sense that what will happen with the programming, because yes, you can remove the contract, or the shame or the blame or the guilt or whatever from from the Akashic records. But they still talking about myself, and I believe this will help everybody. Because, yes, we can remove all that energy. But I continue doing the same thing, because my program is still running in me is and the program can go like money doesn't grow on trees, money is hard to get more than work, you can make money. So you're continue in working and working and working. Because those are the programs that have been ingrained in in this case, in me that is meaning green many, many people and Maureen women.

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 16:14

Yeah. So it's, it's like any kind of energy work that we do, right? We can unblock things, we can create that flow that's easeful, you know, running through the chakras running through our our existence. Um, but if we hold on to those same beliefs, we're just going to recreate those blockages again, right? Yes. So it's not a one and done kind of thing. It's, it's actually everything is a commitment, a commitment to growing yourself, to learning, to learning to unlearn the things that we have been taught, the things that have been ingrained in us. And with that commitment, and the help of somebody guiding you, you can effectively and we see this in other areas, too. I'm just bringing it to the money piece, I'm just bringing it to the accounting and the things that the 3d things that we need to do if we're going to run a business, right? That's what it's about. But we do this in every area of our life, we're manifesting all of the time, we get a divine idea. And then we put it into manifest, we create it in the 3d world, money, and financial performance and making an impact through your business is no different. It's just that because money is so deeply tied to our survival, there's a lot more, it's, it feels like there's a lot more at stake. It's much more rooted in our survival.

Monica Ramirez: 17:51

And everyone, this is Monica Ramirez the worry of love. And he The holidays are coming. Like I feel very confused. I want to be there, or I don't. And I bet there's a lot of confusion. In this time. For many of you, Allison emotional state, you may say you wanted to go to see your family and things like that, but at the same time, you're afraid they're going to be treating you or you're going to be triggering. So that sensation, that emotion it is so common, Hollywood have shown was that, hey, they have happy families and they have a Hallmark movie in there. And enough weight with deep inside of us. That's what we want for ourselves as when we want to create those memories for our kids and for us. But in reality, there is a lot of triggers in there and so a lot of emotions that are gonna go in there. So I have learned how to navigate in those and those family reunions are happy because I was facing a Narcissus family. So it was every year it was the same emotion to I want to go, Okay, I have to make a turkey. But do I want to be there. But at the same time, I didn't want to be left out. So it was always looking for dive in that search for that love and that approval of the family because all those triggers are gonna show up in the majority of the families so I have learned how to navigate in the in them. I can learn how to uproot myself, I know searching for the approval of others and value myself and not going with the value of others or myself. I can learn how to set boundaries. I can learn how to at the same time to have compassion for everyone and more for myself when I am in those kinds of situations, and they created At a master class that is going to be in three days, that in this master class, it is called driving to the holidays. And we're going to be teaching it is going to be obviously the master class how to survive in these situations in the holidays with the family, and still enjoy it, create new memories, and become the observer. I'm going to be doing also a group a cache, reading, Akashic reading, for all the group, I'm going to be doing a soul retrieval because we need to bring all our souls back before we in front, confront all the situations and react in a better with a better understanding that what is happening and not losing the control over us. I'm going to be doing also cutting contracts and bows that many of us we need that in this call today's coming, and is going to be also an integration and I'm going to finish it up with our reprogramming in data level. So like that you have a meditation that you can keep with yourself. In this masterclass, you're going to have recordings, you're going to have all the materials that you're going to need because we're going to have a private group that you're going to need if you need support, I am here to support you because I know how it feels. So it is this masterclass it is going to be limited my notes, it is going to be in November 19 20th 21st, from six to 10pm, that three days, so late that you are be ready before Thanksgiving, or any of the holidays arrive. So if you want more information, just contact me. This is Monica Ramirez the worry of love.

That is true. The majority of the healers or artists, they have the same imprint, that they are not going to do money that they're not going to survive with their money. How do you work with them? Because that's the majority of the healers. They are in charge or they don't charge or they need donations. But they like to have your house, you have to pay you cannot say, Oh, let me give you a donation to the light bill, they will cut you off. You know, and the same applies for the artists and all the older healers that they still have that imprint. Yes.

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 22:43

And we can call it a vow of poverty. There's all different types of vows that we have taken in past lives that we can clear. But you're right that patterning needs to be rewritten or rewired. So when I work with spiritual entrepreneurs, it's really about meeting them where they're at everybody is so different and divine in their own ways. It's about really honing in and this is the intuitive piece that I'm bringing to the accounting work is honing in on what is really going on. First of all, what's up? What's the problem? Is it that we have a program and we're consistently under charging? Well, is it a worth thing? Or is it a value placement on what's being offered? Are we making judgments about what people will pay, or what people have paid in the past or what they're willing to do, rather than looking inward. And coming from a place of service. This is just one example. Coming from a place of service where we know we are giving so much value. They don't know how to do what what we're doing for them. There's value to that, that's why they're coming to us. So it's oftentimes a self worth thing. But it can be something different to it can be the belief that anything that's spiritual really should be free to all right, that's, that's one of the paradigms that we've been working with for a really long time. And it in my personal view, it's unfortunate because we're meant to have it all. We get to have this and that. It's just the the human struggle, the 3d struggle to figure out well how do I do both of those things and be comfortable and aligned within myself at the same time, because we have all these messages coming at us all the time. Oh, well, your spiritual Well, you shouldn't charge for your services. No That's not how we create true impact. Because we can't create true impact if we're struggling to survive ourselves.

Monica Ramirez: 25:08

That's true, because heroes we have were to worry too, about how we're going to pay the light or bring food to our family. Right? They cannot do the work that we meant to supposed to do, because we're to worry about making payments.

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 25:24

Great. And I believe that we're all here to raise global global consciousness, right? But you know, that that's spherical, I call it spherical wealth. You know, it's being wealthy in all directions. Wealth isn't just monetary, you can have spiritual wealth, you can have monetary wealth, you can have abundance of anything, right? So how do we create this aligned life and an aligned business that supports abundance in all the areas that are important to us?

Monica Ramirez: 26:00

And that I just, I just hearing from here, that is my guides are telling me if everybody has the same need of making money to survive, and we get out of the fear factor, and everybody's top producing money, enough, at least for whatever needs or wants, they have, they will not be in this rat race, we understand, hey, they gave me their time. Because at the end, you're paying for the time of the other person, right? Because it's an embodied it is an exchange of energy. That we work on Accept donation, it's like, okay, can you listen to me, or just listen to you, okay, let me go, like, wait, I have not finished talking. That is the problem, like you want a conversation, to listen to the person, it is an exchange of energy. It is not, let me just give you a donation of my time that it is going to be one second, and I'm going to leave. No, it is whatever charge like this, he decided to get paid. Yes. And that doesn't mean that it is the right price or not, because it goes a lot in what we think we deserve. And that's another use.

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 27:26

Yeah, and you know, what one person is willing to pay for the same thing is different than another. But I do believe that the mindset that we're going in the one that, let's say is paying more than the other one, they're probably going to get more out of it, because they're going into the exchange with this idea that there is something of stuff of substance and value that I am going to receive here and I'm looking for it, whereas the other person may not be coming in with that with that strength of the exchange, right? They might be coming in with maybe a little less attention as an example.

Monica Ramirez: 28:07

That is so true. That it is so true. And yes, I encounter that all the time, what I believe as healers will do a coach was we hear that too. Like why you don't only charge donations, why you're charging this amount? Why not? $20 like as a bookkeeper, you notice it causes your time and your gears and and resources to become a bookkeeper. But at the same time will cause you to become a cache reader. And why you're not going to get paid for that or NLP or immunotherapy or whatever.

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 28:47

Whatever the modality. Yeah, exactly. Because to

Monica Ramirez: 28:52

become that uncertificated before that, why it is not we're not going to get paid on the donation.

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 29:00

Yeah, and, you know, a lot of us have many modalities, right, we really invest in our education and furthering our understanding of how do we get by in this world? How do we help ourselves and other people. So it's not just the the hour that we're giving the person asking for the donation or or the value back. It's also all of that accumulated time. All of the education time, all of the certification time, all of the thinking time, all of the creating the business time, all of the accumulated experience. Yes, it's not just the one hour and we have this way of putting a value on an hour of our time. Which one is arbitrary. And to I think it conjures up a lot of that emotion, and a lot of that past life stuff as you mentioned,

Monica Ramirez: 30:00

Yes, I believe so. And, and we go back into the competition, and envy. I have this a talk with a friend that she's a psychologist, she studied for years in Mexico, you know, to become a psychologist, and so forth. And she told me why you charge the same as I do. If I studied this for years, and it cost me this, like at this point, in money wise, we have invested the same for all the certifications that I have, we can invest the same any time, just maybe it was not four years. And I chose different certifications. And I have, I can charge the same as you need that is very valid. But what if that was telling me was about the competition? About choices of other people do?

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 30:52

Right? And also, I would ask that person, why aren't you charging more than if you believe that you're worth more than why aren't you charging more? Because the market and the economy shifts? It's constantly shifting? Yes. And so we need to survive, to have a certain level of comfort in our lives is going to shift with that that cost of living? Right. So we constantly need to be reevaluating what our rates? What is the value? How much experience have I have I accumulated since the last time that I raised my rates? And these are uncomfortable conversations to have with ourselves because we're not a lot of us are not used to really having that conversation or sitting with the emotions that come up with it.

Monica Ramirez: 31:43

Do you think in United States because I know your United States, it will change the way also the insurance see holistic help?

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 31:53

I think that's a different animal. I think insurances is very fear based. And so, um, it would take a lot of influences for them to expand what they're willing to pay for. Um, yeah, I think that's a totally different topic. But yeah, if anything is possible, anything is possible. And, and that's what I would want to the message to be right is that we don't just have to do things the way that we've always done them. Just because traditionally, you go to your accountant once a year, and you do X, Y, and Z, and then you don't talk to them for another year, doesn't mean that you can't change that for yourself. If you feel like you need more, if you feel like there's guidance that you can receive. And that's what I hope to offer people.

Monica Ramirez: 32:51

Please let us know, you're gonna have been having a program very soon. Can you tell us a little bit about your program that you're gonna have? Yeah,

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 32:59

so, um, I am doing a series right now on harmonizing our wealth and happiness goals. And so on December 15. And I will get you the link with all the specifics to send out to the listeners. I'm doing like a half day goal setting workshop, which includes one of my tools that I use, I call it the numbers story tool. And it helps people start to connect with their their bank account numbers, or their sales numbers or expense numbers, or their profit or what have you, in a way that tells them what's triggering them. Where are they now, where do they want to be? And starting to pick out ways that we can experiment with that goal to get to that goal over the year? So it's it's more of a tactical approach to goal setting, giving us ideas about how do we want to experiment over the next year to get to the number that we want to achieve, not just put that number on a page and say, okay, then I need to get X number of dollars by this point, and X number of dollars or sales by that point. You know, we're really looking at what does it mean to us? How do we want this to flow and we're going to achieve our goals.

Monica Ramirez: 34:26

And for how long in fact, this one day,

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 34:31

it's one day it's going to be about three hours.

Monica Ramirez: 34:34

Okay, I will be posting the link in the description of this video so that you guys can sign up because we we all need that help to remove those blockages and don't be so afraid about talking about money. That I believe all of us we are in paid since I discovered that that was so so helpful. And it was after a conversation that you were Carry with someone about the year not only do bookkeeping that you not only do the Akashic records that you also give financial advice.

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 35:09

Yes. So clarification on financial advice. I'm not doing investment advice, but I do like financial coaching. And for the little bit larger companies that are looking for fractional CFO support, I do that as well.

Monica Ramirez: 35:26

Yes. And that's when he hit me. I am afraid of money. Having just made any money feels dirty, and is like, Oh, why he feels dirty? And we have to do that search and diggin why. And probably you're gonna find it out. Because when you were a kid, during every single lollipop, it sounds ridiculous, but is not any traumatic for the kid that is looking for that lollipop. And that creates a trauma that now as an adult, you're having issues, how to make money.

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 36:03

Absolutely. The small things that the simple things,

Monica Ramirez: 36:08

is the thing is in more in our community, spiritual community, they just want to be loving, light, love and light, be vibrating very high. But that's mean, they're going to be the doing the inner work. And that's where it is all the traumas were all the issues that we have to observe, even if they're scary. So later, finally, we can clear it out. And we'll have a different experience of life. Absolutely.

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 36:36

And that's the goal, to have a different experience in life, different experience with our finances, different experience with our business. The sky's the limit, right? There is no limit.

Monica Ramirez: 36:48

Yes, the limit, we put it ourselves. Absolutely. So yes. Oh, again, it was been really my pleasure to have this conversation with you. Because I know many people, you're helping many people in this area, because we all have this problem, this issue for moments if you don't have it permanently, but at least there are moments that you self doubt. And when everything goes down, or we don't know how to administer ourselves, for the same reasons, because we're so afraid to talk about.

Jenniffer Pietrzak: 37:23

Yeah, and there's layers. There's layers. Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate the opportunity to chat with you.

Monica Ramirez: 37:33

Thank you, Jennt . Thank you everybody. And if this helped you please give us a like and share it with someone else. It may help someone else do get these classes and starts in December 15. Thank you so much. This is Monica Ramirez the Warrior of Love and thank you for being in Soul Talk.