Working With The Energy Of The Dragon - Donna Owens

ST Intro/Outro: 00:00:11

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Monica Ramirez: 00:00:31

Hi you everyone, this is Monica Ramirez worry of love. And today we're in salt up. Thank you for being here. And welcome back. And today I have is like an annoying that old, old sister that I have, that we have met too many times too many lives. And he's just seeing here again. And this is just wonderful. Her name is Donna Owens. And her bio it is very, very deep and profound and is very, very similar to mine. So, but I would like to actually she tell you a little bit of who she is because we set up you can feel her magic and you can feel her energy. I want you to listen to her because there's too much that actually that I would like to see she tells you about who she is.

Donna Owens: 00:01:32

Beautiful. Thank you so much, Monica. Again, thank you for the invitation. It's our honor to be here with you and sharing your space that you've created. So I'm so honored to be here. Wow, I don't even know where to begin with my story. Everyone has a story right? To these tears that you all see kind of sadness. You're right. And I prayed for my son family over six months ago, and you guys are showing up in my life in profound ways. And I'm completely humbled. My journey started like all of us, right, where innocent, were born. Unfortunately, you know, I've dealt with childhood traumas, from every abuse that you can possibly imagine. And I survived it. It took me a lot to be able to forgive myself against those who hurt me. And understanding that it had nothing to do with me at all. And you know, I've been up and down with joy, like who am I? Why am I here? What is my purpose? So we're so grateful when we find our soul family here. I'm so grateful for my maternal grandmother for stepping into that mother role. And helping my father raised us. And I literally had a conversation with my mom, so I was the brother earlier today. He and I are a lot alike as far as our energy about love. And they said, you know, we're not for her stepping in and counteracting kind of like being that my Archangel that I needed. Being that barrier of protection. And pushing up that love that's in me like letting it come out. I don't know where I would be right now. So my story goes up and down, up and down. And you know, of course my teens is still trauma there. Right? dealt with in a very abusive situation domestic violence situation, and that I had to make a choice, right, like we all do, we choose circumstances, what we want to do, what we're going to where we're gonna go, how we're gonna do it, it's not always easy. I left him six days before she turned six months old. She's 31 now. And two hours later, years later, I met my husband. during that timeframe that last year with my daughter's father, I went through a lot of Groeschel questioning. And when I was 16, I received my first Adult Bible from my grandmother, I read my Bible from that to the back I received so much from it then. But I also question because I can always see and I can always hear and feel spirit. But according to what others was telling me this is where the beliefs and programming it's come in many questions and other people trying to tell me who I know, but it's a journey that had to do by myself.

Donna Owens: 00:04:42

When I realized that I never said that I was created for greatness. love and the light that everyone is seeking. It's already within all of us. And all I need to do is allow that light to build up in that love and just project it and that's part of the healing is making those steps and shifting and doing like needs to do. And to be honest with Monica, my sister with everything that I've been through, and I call it my reawakening seven years ago, but every day I reawakening like every day I wake up, I don't know anything. I don't know anything other than the fact that I'm a soul. And you're to have a beautiful human experience. It's not about suffering. It's not about all of these things that we were told it should be. It's about this. It's about having that divine peace, that divine love, the joy, happiness, and then everything else falls into place with that. But it was in November of last year, that we made a decision because we're doing the RV lifestyle a little bit every year, we were in Georgia, we're back in Texas now. So the day that we actually my head says, I'm gonna go, we have to get back to Texas. I know, this is where we're supposed to be. Everything in my life changed shift. Again, like because they're always shifting. When I mean that it's just did I say that God had to put me on my knees. Because I was so running from things and hiding from not, I knew I was not being my true authentic self. Okay, so, show me what else do I need to do higher self esteem, connect deeper with me and show me Hold me tight as we go through this together. And when I say I had to be kind of my knees, it was a total breakdown, you know, and realizing that those programs that were so many within me from childhood, you're ugly, you're not smart enough, you're too dark skinned. All of those self hatred, things that my biological mother tried to instill in me, I was still holding. And then they were very limited and hidden. Well, once I started looking on myself more, and admitting to myself that I did not love myself the way that I deserve to be loved. In everything completely changed, again, for me. And I refuse to go back to what that once was. And I'm not going to be apologetic for doing this. Because this is who I am. This is me. And I don't want people to see Donna, I want you to see and feel my small step forward. So my story is a lot of its interests. But at the end of the day, it's all about my divine unconditional love that we have. So that we can emulate that and share that with you. And this is part of being in service, how can we help others? Learn a lot, and I'm still learning. And I'm deeply grateful.

Monica Ramirez: 00:07:55

I'm a true believer that everything that we have experienced in our lives, we went to that experience because we weren't needing to help others meaning because they are in the same situation we were. So all that pain and so forth. Now for us is lessons because we learn how to love ourselves, when we were not already in there, but we chose, we chose who was going to be our mother, our families, and so forth. Because we wanted to learn how to believe how to love ourselves how to heal ourselves, because part of our mission was to help others that are in that situation. And we didn't choose it easy. And just didn't choose easier or do even went to the army.

Donna Owens: 00:08:42

I joined the Army late in life. I was 34. When married like 10 years, my three adult kids were like, teenagers. Yeah. But I knew, I always knew that I was going to join the military just had a baby at 19. I'm married. And after the events of September 11 happened, I knew that it was time. So my now 21 year old was getting ready to start kindergarten. My husband and I just got back from his first deployment. And so I said, it's now or never. And so I first joined the Georgia National Guard. And I did that for a little while. And I wasn't happy. I knew that I wanted more than just the weekend drove I needed that everyday interactions with individuals. I used to say it's unfortunate that I had to ask I asked for a medical board. And it's not unfortunately volunteered by plan because circumstances around the situation just the door open for me to acquire that lead board. So I've been medically retired for like, eight years, eight years. Yeah. Like I did 20 years.

Monica Ramirez: 00:10:00

What happened? So you went from the army to becoming a spiritual coach, because something was happening there. And it just happened.

Donna Owens: 00:10:10

So, in Utah is when I got pregnant with our twins, there was a lot of things that were going on. But I will say, without talking about that entire situation. I ended up having to have surgery when they were six weeks old. And the doctor told me that I would never be able to run again. So let us know, how do you went from being in the Army, to becoming a life coach. And I know the circumstances with me being in our last position where I retired out, there was a lot of activity there. On the installation, and around, we were in Utah in Dugway. They call it the new areas of do one. So even then, and and continuing with reading the Bible, and praying and going to church, just doing those things for myself something that that was instilled by my grandmother, right, just trying to, in my mind, do what I felt as a Christian at that time was what I needed to do. But to be honest, it was the connection that I began to make, really, with my twins, when they were born, and everything that was being thrown at our family, per se, you can kind of say it was a spiritual work you want to. But when we left me, instead of going to Illinois, that's where things like relationship did for me. Meeting other veterans sisters that were awakened, that would drop little seeds here in there. And it took me a minute to catch on. And I made a wonderful connection with sisters in Illinois. One is transitions. They're like family. And they taught me a whole lot about everything. And then son. And then I asked my mentor to mentor me and my sister, and she's been in my life with my mentor ever since. And that's been about seven years around the time when I set up my reawakening I was minding my own business, Monica, watching TV at home has got school twins are at school granddaughter, eating her cereal, and I'm on my phone. And I happened to see something in the corner, trying to get my attention. And I kind of looked, and I really didn't see anything with my human eyes. And then all of a sudden, I felt like this veil, just go like this. And I just, you know, I like it a lot. I read about the house, took the baby with me went up to the shop. And you know, then we started talking. And from there, more things just started happening. And she was like, yeah, do you ever see a layup? So it I think that possibly taught because I was more praying harder, seeking guidance. Knowing now what I know, you know, I wish I would have learned that in my third I would see the beings, those were actual beings that were there and that were wanting to communicate with me. I was like, oh, no, I'm out. And when it's by that night instead of interacting with them. So I think and then, you know, my service in the military and just wanting to be of service, every job that I had prior to military with always customer service or something without dealing with people, individuals, and even going back to school. And when I started my business two years ago, that was divinely given to me. And if it were not for my mentor and her cousin who own the shop, I don't think that I would have done it as quick as I did. I think I would have procrastinated like we mostly do. But I just I mean for me, I think when I say the reawakening that was the biggest event for me. Seeing and being able to communicate and then after that is when I found my dragon and then I saw one of my aha guides, and just everything is been coming in and more and more and more and more. It's interesting because you're asking me, How did I become a spiritual coach? I don't know.

Donna Owens: 00:14:50

To be honest, I think the lady that when I was trying to get insurance, the broker, she said I need to she knew that my resume I needed proof of what I do. And it's like How do you document improve? What you do? Like? Want me to do a free? I can do a session? I mean, what is it that you mean? So they were looking for paper? That is the human way of thinking. Right? So I had to play along with that game. And then I started on Udemy. I found some courses on there that resonated with me. And the guides were like this one, this one this one, and oh, yeah, take that one. And they did the same thing. When I went back to school and bearing it back to the finish my degree. They picked my classes. I was like, oh, yeah, easy peasy. No problem. It's all part of my purpose, right? That was the hardest thing that I've ever had to to miss Monica is not so much that work of doing the schoolwork, or anything like that it was reliving the trauma, and having an understanding outside of myself, like not putting me in it and seeing why people abuse other people, you know, so it's not so much in there saying talk about compassion. You know, I had to go through all of that, to be able to understand why these things happened to me. Yeah, I wanted to throw away and it was difficult. I cried, I cried a lot. If it wasn't for my oldest, Mom, he can do this. You can get through this. You have to do your homework, I know that. I just need this moment to sit with. So Nick becoming a coach is more. It's always been within me. We all are human as well, teachers. It's all any and I forget anything else. The one thing I have is spiritual source. I will never be alone. If I need answers. Source help guide me. It's just another label to add on to me like Donna, something there. But it's always been any to want to be the voice for the voiceless, to fight for children to fight for women to fight. It's always been there.

Monica Ramirez: 00:17:07

Something that attracts me a lot of value. Because I do work with dragons. I do work with them. And I don't say all the time, because people usually get scared when you're telling the Oh yeah, I have my own Dragon, you know, and when or I'm channeling my drive on, or I'm outside. And I feel that and there's this giant, you know, and and the presence is huge. And the energy is huge. And I only have met about three people that actually work with with dragons. And or there might be a lot more, but not everybody wants to talk about it. Because it is they want to confuse the Draco's with dragons. And it is not the same. And please, can you elaborate more about that? Because people need to know this.

Donna Owens: 00:17:59

So I have a beautiful dragon that I found out around seven years ago. And then he allowed me to see him. I call it picture gazing. Like I read the pictures for myself and other days actually writing messages. So when he I knew about him, but I hadn't seen it yet. And the way that he can vary with your picture. I like it a lot. I was like other people very afraid. Well, not at first. So I was taking pictures in my heart, take a picture of your car. So it's facing my car. And I took a picture and I went to go lay down. And I'm going through my phone to go gaze at photos. And I'm looking at my windshield, the dash of my my vehicle. And he comes out the passenger side with my aha guide. My guide is looking at him the whole time like this. And he's talking. My dragon is facing me with a huge smile on his face. Just huge. And his head goes under my GPS and comes back up and he's just staring at me that huge smile. Oh God still smiling and I'm like, freaking out like, Okay, I must be higher or something. Because, you know, and then I'm mentally said, telepathically said, and you can see me Wait, and I wait smile guide. Stop talking. And then he turned and they both waved at me. And I panicked. And I shut my phone down. But it's possible is when you see anything. That's, you know, we're made to believe that our guides some people are made to believe that they're all angels and archangels and then they're not sweat a lot of souls when they transition. They run from the light because we're assuming his angels gonna be there. There may be but you also might have a dragon. You might have, you know, an owl. You might have a panther you might have a bear. You could have anyone to show up for you. You don't know that. My dragon has been with me If, like you and I have lifetimes, and he is here for a purpose, I keep asking him where he's from. And it's, I get nothing like a diamond Island is what he just showed me again. So beautiful island is diamond. They also think of reptilian when they think of dragons. And that's not necessarily the truth, I have been gifted with being able to see different galactic races come together, we'll see like their head person and their entourage, per se, to walk out on this platform to meet the other person in union. So he's talking to me right now. And he's like the worst or like, no more, that people don't need to be afraid. Because they're just another aspect of ourselves. I see myself with everything and nothing at all. So I am serious. And I am saying, I am a giant, I am everything. And everything is me. Don't be afraid. That's what he's saying. And he's like, tell them about you. Okay, so, I did take a light language class about two years ago with my beautiful sister Lisa. And that was before I was brave enough to just allow it to just allow the information and whatever comes through to come through by yourself. And I allowed Sassoon to speak through me, and I still kind of get like nervous about it, because it's still that the fear shouldn't be there. But it's still there, a little bit of it with other people. And then there's the judgment that comes in, and I'm just like, You know what, I don't care anymore. Like, why am I allowing them to stop me, them from delivering codes, activations, healing medicine, for those that want it, I don't want to receive it. For today, say Don't, don't worry about that. Let them continue to call you crazy. And just be the vessel that you are. And of course, there's not relationship that I built, obviously, where I'm I experimental and I just, there's absolutely nothing to be afraid of when it comes to the dragons. The Dragons are here, many different reasons. Ley Lines gridwork. So it's not just to be present, or to say, this dragon is with me, and I'm gonna let him speak for me, it's a lot more deeper than that.

Monica Ramirez: 00:22:44

And my experiences this amazing protection, when you're in fear, they're gonna be there. And they will protect you from any that is not by writing how you should, it should be good reading. They will raise the vibration, that setting.

Donna Owens: 00:23:03

Yeah, they raise the vibration of those, especially when I have clients, they will raise their son, that's mine. And he'll raise mine to matches and the reason why so they definitely do that, like people. Obviously, things have been but I'm not I'm not in that space longer with that fear and that judgment anymore. Was that what is that, you know, my weapon our weapon is unconditional love. And so when they gave me my shield, I was like trying to figure out okay, then they were showing me different scenarios, movies, I don't watch TV and I really don't watch movies but a long time movie for me to understand what they were trying to tell me. And I I just allow extra lap

Monica Ramirez: 00:23:56

Something that I ah, there was three people you work with, not only with dragons, your work, different kingdoms of crystals that you work with face, you work with different galactic beings that you were mentioning. And I am a channeler as you do, and it's always fascinating to me. How, because I have teach many times channeling and a lot of my clients is like, Oh, I just want to talk with angels. Like okay, do you think angels are human? Like angels are not from this earth? Any they're not from the cert they're Galactics you know, they're etc. Do that. So is people have this misconception that I'm not putting down the dangerous or not. There's a beautiful angel. energy that you will it's very helpful. They're also here here to help like many Galactics like the serious play. Yeah, this activity, let's name it. That means races. But which ones are you more input because we're more inclined to talk with certain aspects of ourselves because that's who we are or we wish others aspects around there which ones are yours?

Donna Owens: 00:25:11

Wow. And I Illyrians Syrians Syrians I can't even think that Maria and platers I've been interacting with a lot a lot of Syrian energy obviously with the Lionsgate portal full moon and so much work for me and so they're always present a lot of shipment energy has been coming through for me a lot was also has to do a lot I think with a lot of past lives. And things and part of my purpose even here to be honest, Monica, I know, kind of know a malaria are coming. It's that purring it's that deep. Like I'm here, like leave arrives like, yeah, and I'm like, Okay, let's do this then. And I just allow. I don't think that I'm, I don't ever like I want to channel this person or that or this. I don't. I'm just here. And I listen to the guidance. Like every morning, I do the great central sunrising live on Facebook. And the trees are always talking to me in the water. And when I make my way there, it's yesterday, listen to beautiful song. And today. Oh my gosh. I'm still trying to integrate all of those things. But I don't like specifically say that I want to channel this or that. Like Sebastien is like, he's ready. He's ready. And I mean, he stays ready, but and that's a master ready for him too. So it's not just one race or being or energy. I guess I'm setting that intention and just opening up my heart and not being in fear and trusting. And really just a month that arrived sister letting it go.

Monica Ramirez: 00:27:24

Today is the 12. So today's the last day of the Lionsgate. There's just kind of being very strong. And I did already a talk with Maria and Serena. About the Lionsgate in the eighth. Yes, no, it was very, very interesting. And they also knowledge and everything, the energies that were coming in the experience that came through there, and after that he was very, very profound for me.

Donna Owens: 00:27:57

So for me, I spoke about this a little bit earlier today, going to Lionsgate of course by week prior, we started at least are feeling the energy and I knew the portal was open and just I tell people, it's about me being silent. But it wasn't about being friendly. It was me allowing and surrendering and letting go and trusting whatever was coming in. I knew and I know, it's for my greatest good for everyone. And I felt like after the eighth and I did watch your interview with Marian and I was just like, I miss this but I felt a such a powerful and I still do. Like I'm breathing something. I'm like what is this, but it's without the sadness. Allow yourself said. So during this Lionsgate honey, you really surrendered on a lot, you let go of a lot of things. There are aspects of yourself that came back that are healed and love, that it's completed what they needed to complete. And now they're moving on to where they need to be. And I was like, Well, shouldn't they sue? You know, it's just another aspect of you. Okay. I feel like I should be crying and I'm not. And then my grandmother said, said and she says, Well, you remember this, the elders in our family, she would always say that when babies are born, were supposed to be when we transition must be happy. Because why? They get to go back to the divide or have a level of life. And you know, all the answers. So there's aspects of me that are no more unhappy. It's a sense of freedom.

Monica Ramirez: 00:29:51

And that is true. And we don't talk enough about it. But there is a transition of guides all the time. We have the ones that were born. And they're E with us for eons. And, of course, our higher self and our resources, we have an entourage, everybody. But we never talk about the guides that they just come in to teach us something. And the transition. We didn't talk enough about that. I believe it's important, because it's part of the lesson to release and let go and wait for another energy. That is good.

Donna Owens: 00:30:32

And that's all it is. That's all it is. So then our guides were chosen for us. Some volunteer to come with us. And we brought here with us, because we trusted them like I did with my soon and like Buddha, and a few other guides, but I know that they come in and out. These, the ones I just mentioned will be with me until the end, my grandmother made a conscious choice and and blessed. She made a very selfless choice. And that was when she transitioned to stay with me. So she helped my guides to do so. And it's the little girl in me that wants to keep her with me forever, right. But I also know, there's things that she needs to do. And I know it's going to come a time during my lifetime, where eventually she will move on. And I'm okay with that. It doesn't mean that I did anything wrong, or she did anything wrong. It's just that whatever she agreed to do with me, she's done. And whatever I agreed to have her do that I would keep my ends of the bargain on so doing. So it's not about being sad because they leave us be happy because we no longer need them. Because their mission is continued with us. I don't know all of my guides. I just know the main ones. Of course, we were the Archangels. And I loved them dearly. Yeah, that's I don't think anyone ever ever that I've watched, talked about this a year. Right? So thank you for bringing that up.

Monica Ramirez: 00:32:08

Yes, I believe, important to understand that. But they're not dead, we can die, anyone. This is where all the spectators, we're not talking about that we're talking about transition, because just one of my guides made that what was in conversations with him, and what I need an advice since and he's still there, you know, and but you're right is gonna come a time that I know, deep inside, I know that she's you have to be reborn and continue their own process.

Donna Owens: 00:32:43

And that is hard. Even when they're living. It's hard to let them go, you know, and I was the same with my grandma. I knew she needed to transition. It was hard. I said my mother, you know, to buy everything. But she gave me a return. I feel deep inside I have an obligation not only to myself, and to do mine, but to do what I came here to do. So much grace. And I know she's proud. Oh, she's also proud, you know what I mean? That's what it's about for me, is just standing in my truth because I'm making all of those before me. And now my children, my grandchildren and future generations to see

Monica Ramirez: 00:33:35

Something that I was reading your bio, that one of your techniques to to heal. It is the cylinder hardcode bit about that.

Donna Owens: 00:33:45

Okay, so I am a proud facilitator of Jan Brenners cylinder hardcourt process, the channeled modality that she received, there's two parts that can go together or use and separate. So this helped me to grab my book. And I didn't do it. Because all the time. It's got different clearings in there, I can do a basic what I do with everyone, especially when I go live, I'm here so you can kind of feel what it feels like these modalities. That's when I connect with my clients or individuals or higher selves. And we sit down with our team and data for container over cylinder. And I go line by line, and they tell me exactly what clearing thing needs specifically for that person. And then I use those the cylinder processes. I can use those all day long, all day, but the heart clerk, it's different. You can only use six a day because they are still very powerful. Both of these clearings run anywhere from two to three days if not longer depending on the individual and how bad they want to see Your their situation and the work that they're doing and the guidance that goes along with it the water they eating like getting out in nature the self care stuff yeah so if you like I can do like a simple hearing even though you don't mean it but finally ever need this

Monica Ramirez: 00:35:19

we'll need it

Donna Owens: 00:35:22

So honestly it's everything that I love ourselves to include our homes, our families, any pets that we may have our vehicles our place our space our schools, the classrooms, our children and ourselves does the ground below Diablerets the current around now seems like it's so interstates recalibrate us now so I normally do that like if I'm gonna open and not a one on one and when I'm with clients one on one prior to that is when I sit down with a book and I'll go through the book and do some clearings at them if you mind I can put you into the container with me to fill the container with our team guides known as Galactics Zilla masters but want to join us we have Archangel Raphael divinely and lovingly I'm asking you to play picmonic is hard for a new again. So kindly and lovingly and asking to left for Monica Harcourt Chakra The effects of the registration registered while of codes and adhering to the imprints all of the times and the ways that she is felt not good enough in her life from the beginning of her soul's existence and every level and layer effortlessly easily and properly so somebody please remove everything so much please to calibrate us taste it or smell? Yes. nonathletic by Hyundai. Hyundai Kia suto Sunday a nice situation they are Honda. They are funa Honiara Tata kisi wa our Honda is sandata kids to buy Chaga for our son Sundar case to ask Ariados ask Ooh similar hanya dadly Assume it yummy. Mummy daddy and we are forever connected in our hearts and our souls dragon sentence but it's codes of medicine in us the tools not our case and it's been an honor and a pleasure to be with you in this moment to service codes of use and then I used to think

Monica Ramirez: 00:39:48

thank you I felt on my body

Donna Owens: 00:39:53

And it's it's gonna get better to get a lot of water a lot of water to help integrate Push these codes through that makes you feel that I mean, I know. But yeah. I know that hit hard.

Monica Ramirez: 00:40:14

It was from my heart and it was all my body was tingly. And you can feel the seat? And if so when is the scene? Where do you see this video, you're gonna, you're connected to that in your drive, and you're gonna feel it too at the same time. And that light language, it was completely the dragon, I can felt it immediately recognized that

Donna Owens: 00:40:42

You went away. But they know that when I'm here, this space, I'm open not only to do this clearings, but it's literally a binder that I go page by page with my clients. And it gets deeper than that. So that was the lead out there.

Monica Ramirez: 00:41:02

Tell us a little bit about your name that you were named Cornish. That's a beautiful name. I would like to know more about

Donna Owens: 00:41:14

Oh, gosh. So I was in a meditation and I was coming out of the meditation. During this time, I have three lives since me past lives, coming out of the meditation, like fully awake, like sitting up watching my head. So watch TV. And all of this was shown to me. And then I heard Did you know that your school has the name correct? No, it was those names shown to me. And I'm horrible because even though I have it on my backdrop on my profile on Facebook, I can't tell you the meaning by heart. But the meaning is extreme and fortune health and spirituality. You're very versatile, idealistic and intuitive. You enjoy a great success or are set for objective misery. The solution is service to others that pretty much defines exactly who I am. This is who I am as a soul. So when I googled it and found the meeting I was like blown away not even still not knowing who I am. What I am other than a soul Okay, I have this name but not really. Knowing then when it was given to me sounds like I'm literally still read it like looking at it well, the Hudes

Monica Ramirez: 00:42:48

And something that I have learned when they gave me the Warrior of Love us is what I do. That's okay. Sounds great. Yes, but in that time, I did not even believe in myself. So it took me a while to actually, but one of the things that they told me you have to own it.

Monica Ramirez: 00:43:07

And when you own it, that's when he's gonna make the big shift of everything. And that's something that I have learned with a spiritual names, that when this given to you, it is the only net only in the tech part. And with all the meaning of each part.

Donna Owens: 00:43:25

Yeah, and thank you for that. Because like I said, I didn't know it by heart, and I didn't read all of it. But I read it up. And thank you, because you take the time to go back and reread it again and again. And read it that once it was like okay, but didn't realize until now. So thank you for that. Like, I'm so happy, like, you know, when you've arrived, you've arrived, you know what I need? And for you to get that back to me to show that to me. I didn't realize that I arrived like that, you know? I always knew, you know, the meaning of my human a nice lady, you know. So, thank you. It's important. And I've shared my Sony with you and another now everyone else but there's nothing to be ashamed of. This being proud.

Monica Ramirez: 00:44:27

It takes time to actually own it.

Donna Owens: 00:44:30

Yeah.

Monica Ramirez: 00:44:31

Probably a year, a year and a half. So actually, I opened a Facebook page with worry of love. And I put my face in it. And I was hiding and they put posts and memes and things like that because I was a shame. Like Yeah, where are your love? Yeah, I am not that. But more that I start owning it. Now I do present myself as Monica middle warrior of love, but it took probably two years. So I actually started over in it and more money goes on in layers more than who own it gets another layer on an older year on where it's going to stop. I don't know.

Donna Owens: 00:45:16

Thank you for that. And I couldn't agree more with you. And it's literally your words. Okay. Thank you.

Monica Ramirez: 00:45:27

What would you recommend people that are in trauma right now that they don't have a voice and they don't believe in themselves that they can get healed? Because many people still, they will. It's not that they want to continue being addicted. That's one kind of people. But there are people that don't even know that they can deserve to heal themselves, what would you tell them?

Donna Owens: 00:45:51

Everything starts with us. You know, the hardest thing to do is to forgive ourselves, to be honest with ourselves, and take responsibility for the things that we've done. You know, the hardest thing is forgiving ourselves. And then the second part is after that is the judgment and the self, self sabotage, self hatred, itself, all of that. But when you are ready to begin your healing process, you want to turn inward and be honest and real with yourself about every single situation, whether it was a person place or a theme. Looking at the events that happen, no matter how painful no matter how happy, they are, no judgments, no lower emotions, nothing but pure love. And then you can kind of see the lessons that you were supposed to learn from those circumstances. And give yourself permission to again, allow yourself to go through those emotions and rendering them into back into love, letting them go. forgiving yourself, suffering anything or anyone else. And even your abusers, the person that caused your trauma or the trauma that you witnessed, no matter what stage of life, we did that, forgive them. There's always a root ship, something came from somewhere with my personal, my sexual trauma was famine. And it was known, I made it known, I kept speaking about it. system failed me and that's okay. But it took me a very long time to even have anybody acknowledged what happened to me for so many years. And when I was like when I met my husband 27 years ago, so as with everything about me, the next day, something I need to tell my oldest daughters, and I knew him since I was 14. I knew it, my husband, it was different. I knew that he was missing. And I'm not everyone has a partner, that will lead them through their healing. And if you're all alone, no matter what it is, it starts with having that love for yourself. Being in love with yourself, what we pour out into our family, our children, our partners. That's what we should be pouring into ourselves first. Because if we don't love ourselves, how can we love someone else? How can we assist anyone with anything, we're broken? It definitely starts with us. And turning everything within like what I had to go through, like in November. With me having to be honest and open and real about everything about myself. And starts with us. You make that conscious decision that you don't want to live in the stuck in the things that happened to you, that had nothing to do with you to begin with. These things are holding you back. The true freedom comes when you make that decision. I don't want this crap anymore. I know what I'm capable of. I know who I am as a divine being. I'm not supposed to suffer. No, you make that decision. You start working. Yes, we all need at times assistance to help us get through it and we're going to do the work for you. But I will hold that space and work with you and allow you to begin the healing process and hold that space for you and provides you the tools that you need to continue on your journey and development spiritually. I think the greatest gift that we can give ourselves is that self care, unconditional love, amplify that and the light and the love and to share that.

Monica Ramirez: 00:49:55

I do agree with you. It is I don't understand that We act at all of us before with information that we had that time. That's why when people tell me Oh, will you go live to have 21 year old again, like, the knowledge that I have now? Yes. But I don't want to lose all the spirits that make me become who I am now. So I prefer not to go back. I prefer to stay where I am.

Donna Owens: 00:50:24

Exactly.

Monica Ramirez: 00:50:25

So we acted with that experience. So don't be such a judgmental is for everybody about the mistakes you did forgive yourself, you were in your 20s, you were in your 30s or mid 40s, you're in your 80s, it doesn't matter, you act the way information you had.

Donna Owens: 00:50:43

You know, and something to that they downloaded me like two years ago, they call it a 12 step program that we're gonna have to read mindset name, and it's literally taking the client back to their earliest memory of childhood and holding that space and allowing them to get that trauma. But it's also to give them the tools at that age, that you know, now that they have so that we can move forward, we cannot change the past. But what we can do is we can heal it and move forward. And that's it also, you know, the inner child and the divine feminine within and the divine masculine within everyone begins doing those steps on top of just surrendering, surrendering to yourself, hey, what else can we do? What am I missing? Is there something else there, that having those tools to be able to go back like, Mother Mary literally helped me and her butts and looks like I saw myself in her arm as a newborn, and you're telling me the things that I was going to go through. But these are the tools that you're going to need to get through. And it's compassion definitely for yourself. Being gentle with yourself. It's not a race, it's not a comparison. But I receive, you may not receive what you receive, I may not receive and I'm not gonna compare myself more monitor gotta download Annika, why haven't I noticed different path to commission, it's similar but different, you know, that we need to let go of everything outside of ourselves, and really dive into our heart. Because we have the keys to everything. But we have to make that choice to want to know. And when it gets back.

Monica Ramirez: 00:52:41

That is very important. I do agree. We have to, we forgot what it was free will. And I make them mean so so that you have a choice. And that's a no one should tell you not even your ego. That side is like that light side higher self. So because at the same time we're both and showing one other other. Without one we can observe the outer world without the darkness our dark side when everyone else serve our light side. So it is important to integrate it and love it.

Donna Owens: 00:53:18

Yes, I do. I think what is beautiful for me be able to look at solids in their eyes. And to see their souls smiling back at me during a session they'll be like yeah, but when the moment that shift happens, and I either feel it or see it like I did with you. And I was like Yep, you got hit hard. That's the moment that's when the magic comes in. Because then their soul is smiling huge back at me. And I know that they've just arrived like I just did with my name so and that's a such a beautiful gift that I don't take for granted at all. Is you know you talk about freewill. You know, it's another beautiful gift that's untouchable like I love and I don't like and I don't think that people realize that are all three of them are huge guests that should never be touched and unless you allow it. I'm not letting anybody serve my to my love. Peace, none of that. So it's a choice that we all have. And what we should be grateful to be on the show since right yes. How people can find you Donna. You can find me on let's see Facebook ancient goddess wisdom LLC to talk in Instagram. Me there or have your Higher Self results my higher self and we'll do it that way too.

Monica Ramirez: 00:54:52

I will be posting information in the YouTube so like that you guys can can find you because like So, this is a beautiful, magical, amazing s soul, multidimensional soul,

Donna Owens: 00:55:05

It's been an honor to be here be present with you and to share with you an idea I honored thank you so much for what you are doing for the collective collected and everything that you've done on yourself and that it continues.

Monica Ramirez: 00:55:25

Thank you everybody. And, thank you for being in Soul Talk. This is Monica Ramirez, Warrior of Love.